tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post5628789245834341663..comments2023-07-01T05:41:30.469-07:00Comments on Headius: The Future: Part Oneheadiushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15717357218364947795noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-82656781395675628552009-04-22T05:05:00.000-07:002009-04-22T05:05:00.000-07:00good review of the actual situation and trends of ...good review of the actual situation and trends of JVM although i am a clojure fan and would it on top of the JVM realm :-PJavierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03081252416288495482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-57661331310794190312009-04-22T05:57:00.000-07:002009-04-22T05:57:00.000-07:00Great post. I for one, play in the static language...Great post. I for one, play in the static languages league and would love to see something like Scala taking the baton from Java (especially since the evolution of Java hits brick walls like we see once again in Java 7 - no hope for closures, reified generics, properties etc.) I've been learning JavaFX even not being a GUI guy, just for the sheer pleasure of using a languge that keeps what I love from Java but adds type inference and other modern traits like some support for FP. And I echo your words on Scala's complexity - the language is already a little hard for less experienced developers, I hope they don't go the way of Haskell which was a hugely promising language but became a playground of PhDs in post-modern typesystems and completely died as a viable mainstream language (wonder if Haskell' has any chance to revert that).<br><br>I hope Oracle understand the enormous value of what you and other alternative-JVM-languages hackers have been doing. Ditto for other major players, IBM for example seems to be supporting Groovy as one of their "sMash" languages; Google is also being very helpful to make several languages work in their AppEngine for Java.Osvaldo Doederleinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05264918260779798314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-61770402436152984052009-04-22T07:07:00.000-07:002009-04-22T07:07:00.000-07:00I guess I commented too fast. You did mention clo...I guess I commented too fast. You did mention clojure. Lots of people like Clojure, including myself (just as much as I like JRuby) and there's lots going on in the community.dysingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13310783563646722381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-80094638427171661432009-04-22T07:21:00.000-07:002009-04-22T07:21:00.000-07:00I enjoyed reading this, thanks for posting. Looki...I enjoyed reading this, thanks for posting. Looking forward to more posts on the future of the JVM.Alex Kanehttp://www.alexkane.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-38842218008224850152009-04-22T07:24:00.000-07:002009-04-22T07:24:00.000-07:00@Charles - I'm very curious about the czar thi...@Charles - I'm very curious about the czar thing. Even relatively homogenous projects with a well recognized leader like the Linux kernel project are just shy of rampant anarchy. How can a language czar have any real influence across multiple communities with different goals?James Iryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835376424060382389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-13302914443059342922009-04-22T07:32:00.000-07:002009-04-22T07:32:00.000-07:00Will the Language Czar have to face scrutiny regar...Will the Language Czar have to face scrutiny regarding whether or not they paid their taxes? If so, there's, unfortunately, little hope in the position being filled.Andyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09582587198365370386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-61110206722358567772009-04-22T14:21:00.000-07:002009-04-22T14:21:00.000-07:00Well anonymous, that article was from 2007 and the...Well anonymous, that article was from 2007 and the JVM has changed in the meantime. I believe the author of this blog is the main force behind that effort.James E. Ervin, IVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08449037734048661986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-47539385722260442009-04-22T18:02:00.000-07:002009-04-22T18:02:00.000-07:00Very nicely put Charles.Very nicely put Charles.ラファエルhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13468681593744741422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-30265717712411964572009-04-23T16:42:00.000-07:002009-04-23T16:42:00.000-07:00Great post. I find it very amusing, though, that ...Great post. I find it very amusing, though, that you neglected to mention JavaFX. That's my experience, too, but Sun obviously wouldn't agree, judging by the topics at the upcoming JavaOne conference. :)Ken Kousenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18422425851786549424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-18244257871617020802009-04-24T21:04:00.000-07:002009-04-24T21:04:00.000-07:00James, I don't think JSR 192 is finished yet, ...James, I don't think JSR 192 is finished yet, and invokedynamic isn't available in any JVMs is it? Actually, I was comparing it to the Strongtalk vm, what a shame that Sun didn't choose to finish it instead of having its authors work on Java.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-7575847305651695162009-07-16T11:07:34.194-07:002009-07-16T11:07:34.194-07:00You've neatly summed up my thoughts about the ...You've neatly summed up my thoughts about the future of Java. I've used (a little) Groovy, but I really miss the refactoring and code-completion comfort that only static types can give.<br><br>Scala apparently has managed the unite the best of both type systems (dynamic and static types) and programming paradigms (OO and functional).Daniel Serodiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04702510073994831969noreply@blogger.com