tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post1259836729152008436..comments2023-07-01T05:41:30.469-07:00Comments on Headius: And They Said JRuby was Dead...headiushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15717357218364947795noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-34014057490221383512006-05-13T02:06:00.000-07:002006-05-13T02:06:00.000-07:00Once again: Great article and great work of you JR...Once again: Great article and great work of you JRuby-guys!!! <br><br>With the engagement you are showing this will definitly be a success! One thing about donations, marketing and so on: Are you working at sun? Or is sun in contact with you guys? Taking into account the effort that microsoft is putting into dynamic langs on .net it would be cool if sun donates you and puts some marketing power behind cool projects like this one. I think it would be quite interesting to hear for non insiders if sun cares about projects like yours or if they leave the future of dynamic langs on the jvm solely to the open source community <br><br>Regards Jan PrillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-4056033104291470232006-05-13T03:30:00.000-07:002006-05-13T03:30:00.000-07:00Hey you Guys, you make a great thing for the best ...Hey you Guys, you make a great thing for the best of both world!<br><br>It is very exciting! I am not a developper but I see a great potential of this approach.<br>Keep the good work!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>BriceBricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05627339335778723289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-79991757467413038962006-05-13T08:08:00.000-07:002006-05-13T08:08:00.000-07:00This is damn cool... Good work guys!This is damn cool... Good work guys!Curt Hibbshttp://blog.curthibbs.us/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-64487054245561889362006-05-13T09:35:00.000-07:002006-05-13T09:35:00.000-07:00This is awesome news! Well done guys, keep it up!This is awesome news! Well done guys, keep it up!Haris Skiadashttp://skiadas.dcostanet.net/afterthought/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-85702173447005231432006-05-13T13:18:00.000-07:002006-05-13T13:18:00.000-07:00Re: Anonymous "why?"I responded on your ...Re: Anonymous "why?"<br><br>I responded on your blog, but there's one reason I neglected to mention:<br><br>Because we want to!<br><br>JRuby is not just a project to accomplish the goal of a JVM-based Ruby implementation. It's also a great challenge to those of us for whom day-to-day Java or J2EE development has become mundane. Now we're able to kill two birds with one stone: bring one of our favorite langages into that day-to-day world, and have fun making it happen.Charles Oliver Nutterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06400331959739924670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-37951875229374752922006-05-13T13:52:00.000-07:002006-05-13T13:52:00.000-07:00Re: Charles Oliver Nutter said... Re: Anonymous &q...Re: Charles Oliver Nutter said... Re: Anonymous "why<br><br>(i now chose an identity. "Re: Anonymous" looks so depressing :-( )<br><br>thanks for the comments.<br><br>first: the "because it's fun" is already a sufficient reason :)<br><br>now regarding your points: they basically fall into either 'interact with java' or 'run in java'.<br><br>i understand the 'interact with java' part.<br><br>could you elaborate a bit more on the 'run in java' part?<br><br>you many times mention 'java servers'. do you mean J2EE EJB containers? or "java.exe myclass" type applications?<br><br>is JRuby able to run inside an EJB container? what happens with the threads or IO?Gaborhttp://www.nekomancer.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-61744317353503633402006-05-13T14:09:00.000-07:002006-05-13T14:09:00.000-07:00Gabor: JRuby in its current form might require som...Gabor: JRuby in its current form might require some tweaks to run in an EJB container, but it's not far off. Threading and IO do need to be tightly controlled, but Rails itself does not use threads and the only IO it needs we can easily provide. Most of the issues preventing JRuby from running inside a container today are superficial, and won't be issues much longer.Charles Oliver Nutterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06400331959739924670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-70254924946342542202006-05-14T05:10:00.000-07:002006-05-14T05:10:00.000-07:00We would definately use this. We've got an exi...We would definately use this. We've got an existing Java app which is successfully used in the Enterprise, and we really want to write additional functionality in Rails - starting with low-value but fun stuff but possibly migrating more and more of the core app to Rails over time. This will be so much easier if Rails is "just another" JVM app, rather than having to explain why we're installing this apparently faddish Ruby on Rails onto someone's mission critical enterprise server. <br><br>I'm not saying that Rails on native Ruby isn't appropriate, just that if we can stick it into our core code then it is our problem how the code got written, whereas if we introduce another app server, we've got some convincing to do which is expensive and somewhat risky to our relationship with the client.<br><br>Blending Rails and J2EE is important for another reason, apart from customer acceptance. It is going to get very hard to convince developers to keep working in Java, given how much fun Rails is. We're hitting that problem already, the developers aren't really that keen on working on the (mortgage-paying) Java app, they all want to write the addons in Rails (which produce no revenue).<br><br>Keep up the good work! If we ever get any cash, we'd be very happy to make a contribution of some kind - as I suspect would a lot of other people with Java-based apps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-70159687637106451432006-05-15T09:44:00.000-07:002006-05-15T09:44:00.000-07:00I've been able to get some gems installed ... ...I've been able to get some gems installed ... I have all the gems I need in a given directory, and you have to issue to gem install command when in that directory, it worked for me :-)<br><br>insight:~/gems $ jruby /usr/bin/gem install rails-1.1.2 --local --backtrace --debug --no-rdoc --no-test --no-wrappers<br>Attempting local installation of 'rails-1.1.2'<br>Successfully installed rails, version 1.1.2<br><br>I had to hack up some of the Ruby code in fileutils.rb and in some of the rubygems files, but it wasn't anything major ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-65614559101054091982006-05-15T09:54:00.000-07:002006-05-15T09:54:00.000-07:00Congratulations! Well done indeed.Congratulations! Well done indeed.Paulhttp://innig.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-81373146632080430172006-05-16T18:58:00.000-07:002006-05-16T18:58:00.000-07:00Unbelievable good news, you guys rock. I'm rea...Unbelievable good news, you guys rock. I'm really looking forward to the great potential of JRuby, given that the advance of YARV is quite slow and a JIT is still in dream. Also glad to hear Ruby.net and JRuby team help each other. Ruby.net is for sure important for the expanding adoption of Ruby as well.piggynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-7224404626786014892006-05-17T05:59:00.000-07:002006-05-17T05:59:00.000-07:00Any thoughts about getting JRuby's continuatio...Any thoughts about getting JRuby's continuations to be serializable? This would be interesting to a number of folks.Brenthttp://brentfitzgerald.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-29343665096606723172006-05-17T11:14:00.000-07:002006-05-17T11:14:00.000-07:00Serializable continuations have been mentioned bef...Serializable continuations have been mentioned before. Since we do control all state necessary to save off a continuation, it would theoretically be possible to serialize as well. However, we have not started thinking about this much yet (since as of now we don't support continuations either).Charles Oliver Nutterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06400331959739924670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-81882980952973151062006-05-18T07:58:00.000-07:002006-05-18T07:58:00.000-07:00how did the press conference go?how did the press conference go?mortenchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02698283827503630411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704664917418794835.post-62264791299142827962006-11-13T02:40:00.000-08:002006-11-13T02:40:00.000-08:00I love JRuby! Great project! Keep going!I love JRuby! Great project! Keep going!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com